brundal 10:28 Fri Jul 21
Moyes tactics
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Are they the reason why we struggle in the transfer market and players and coaches seem to want leave.
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threesixty
7:16 Fri Jul 21
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When Moyes first came I thought he made the club a meritocracy. Work hard, train hard.. best players start.
Now I have no idea what he's doing but it's definitely not a meritocracy out there. I think that just sums it up really. He's his own man, doing his own thing, 60yrs old and gives zero fucks what anyone else thinks. Fans, players, assistant coaches, owners etc. do not know more than he does and thats that.
I think he's been a bit lucky that he had a lesser European competition to be in otherwise he'd have been gone ages ago.
As much as I like the trophy he got us, he surely must have the worst league record of any manager in Europe by now?
He's had a disastrous 18months. Barely won a game since Jan 2022 right?
I suppose when you've been in the game as long as he has you need a bit of luck really, and the ECL saved him.
Funnily enough, I've got a strange feeling that we might do well this season, mainly because of Rice not being there he'll have to work out what to do and can't rely on having a 100m player to bail him out of his shitty Soucek love affair. He sometime stumbles upon a really good system (Arnie as a roaming striker, Arthur/Creswell doubling up etc) when he's pushed. But I bet its only good if he himself thought of it!
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New Jersey
6:46 Fri Jul 21
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Maguire's just a poor mans Craig Dawson!
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Eerie Descent
6:07 Fri Jul 21
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Lee Trundle 1:35 Fri Jul 21
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Lee Trundle
1:35 Fri Jul 21
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Boycie 12:02 Fri Jul 21
AG!
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Willtell
1:31 Fri Jul 21
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What most of us don't like is the history of piss-poor recruitment and Moyes' ditheing about signings or getting them completely wrong.
Add that to his inability to play to a more adventurous style abd you get why Moyes is so unpopular on WHO but not with those that go to games with another year of sold out season tickets.
Being successful for WHU does not mean trying to play like Man City. Our players just are not up to it. The lower divisions are full of clubs that didn't have practical managers like Moyes. He has advanced us while playing shit football.
If recruitment gets sorted by Steidten getting Sullivan's grubby mits off it. Bringing in some of the young players we are linked to, with a mix of senior PL players Moyes seems intent on signing, could mean a very good year playing Moyesball.
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Side of Ham
12:30 Fri Jul 21
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There’s not a single West Ham supporter that given the option of a PL win and then an FA Cup win playing half decent football but then have to suffer a relegation would not take it.
Including you twofacedcunt…..they even did the CL something we will most likely never do….hence Rice felt he had to move on.
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master
12:16 Fri Jul 21
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Recent Premier League and FA Cup winners Leicester?
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twoleftfeet
12:09 Fri Jul 21
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This definitely needed its own thread.
I tell you the team I admire forplaying attractive football.
Leicester City.
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Boycie
12:02 Fri Jul 21
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You mean “tactic”
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AKA ERNIE
11:41 Fri Jul 21
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Kd we seem to have had a problem in the transfer market for the last 40yrs
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Vexed
11:40 Fri Jul 21
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Yes definitely. Half our existing squad don't want to be here. You could see why Palinha would be keen, Moyes would build a team round him. Funny that Maguire thinks hes too good for us, we're one of the last places in the modern game whose tactics or lack of would embrace an ageing slow clogger warhorse type.
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Nagel
11:33 Fri Jul 21
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I can't see why Moyes' tactics would be a reason why we're apparently struggling to get a new DM in. The fact that we do play so defensively and that for the last 3-4 years our manager coached someone who's become one of the best DMs in world football should make them more likely to want to join, if anything.
Fact is, most footballers will care mostly about their salary, status and location of the club and the league/European competition that the club plays in. Chances are that whatever manager you sign for will be gone in a year or two anyway.
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Keep dreaming
11:31 Fri Jul 21
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AKA, absolutely right, but despite those facts we are struggling
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Keep dreaming
11:29 Fri Jul 21
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Definitely a combination El.
It's been said before, both David's would suit a pub team rather that a PL team
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AKA ERNIE
11:27 Fri Jul 21
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Kd of course not but we pay good wages, play in london, get 62k every home game , we are in the europa league and are massive!!!
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El Scorchio
11:25 Fri Jul 21
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Don't think it's necessarily why we struggle in the transfer market- do we particularly? If we do I think it's more because of the way we go about our business and recruitment than the tactics of the manager.
Definitely contributes to some players and coaches being unhappy or wanting to leave though, IMO.
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Pagey
11:23 Fri Jul 21
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The trouble is that the average pundit will blindly say how ungrateful we are because he ‘kept us up’ and won us our first trophy in 43 years. Failing to mention that the only real ‘quality’ we faced in the entire competition was Alkmaar and Fiorentina. Even they were just okay.
It was a brilliant feeling, of course it was, but we were favourites to win it as it was a lesser European competition.
Sacking Moyes, after he won the trophy, would have been a real statement of intent. And justifiable, given the horrendous league campaign we had. A new manager would have had a great platform to build on, the Rice money and a Europa League place. And a great salary.
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Keep dreaming
11:23 Fri Jul 21
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AKA, so you genuinely believe that our first trophy for 43 years attracts players to WHU alone?
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Keep dreaming
11:21 Fri Jul 21
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Ah yes I can relate TM
In that case, a big fat YES to the op
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AKA ERNIE
11:20 Fri Jul 21
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Mike you missed out win our 1st trophy in 43 yrs
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Takashi Miike
11:11 Fri Jul 21
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sit back, preferably on the six yard line
ten men behind the ball at all times
let the other team have the ball 90% of the time
depress not only your own fans, but also your players and fellow coaches
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